Hooker, Sir Joseph Dalton
JHC569
Hotel de Londres, Rue des Petitstits Augustins, Paris, [France]
JDH/2/16 f.25-26
Hooker, Sir William Jackson
The Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew
20-2-1845
© Descendants of Sir Joseph Dalton Hooker
Letters during a tour in Paris and Leyden
The Trustees of the Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew
English
Original MS
4 page letter over 1 folio
 
Transcript

Museum have much to give & only want a little stimulus in receiving: I have looked over the Abyssinian things, & they are excellent & somewhat differing from Schimpers, also the Senegal things of Perotelet[?] & Goudot[']s*6 Madagascar, amongst all them there are good duplicates for distribution, amongst the ferns of these countries I saw nothing very remarkable[,] their best are Blumes' Java ones are Siebold's Japan Coniferae are superexcellent[sic]. -- They want Scotish[sic] plants very badly & have none of the Fl[ora] Bor[eali] Am[ericana] things -- of V[an] D[emen's] L[and] plants they are getting good things from the Cape Verreaux who is now there. I have also seen many Botanists -- spent a day with Gaudichaud*7 who is remarkably kind & when he meets me asks me to dine with him without ceremony & that sort of thing. He gave me a long letter about his sap & cambium case, his materials &c are beautiful but he may not have made the best use of them. He has published on the Pandameae in the Bay of the Bonite & cut the order up into several made genera & species in the most extraordinary manner & altogether incurred great censure here; he has I cannot tell how many species of Phytelephas characterized by the form of the nut the only part of the genus he has seen. Mirbel*8a is very old & failing, he is surprised you have not thanked him for his essay on the Date Palm, which is a beautifully illustrated but rather illegible paper: he is preparing his grand work on the Anatomy of the Monocotyledonous stem & showed me the drawings & for it which are very beautiful but folio & dreadfully cumbersome. He also showed me many other physiological drawings beautifully done & desired Brown's*8 discovery of the plurality of Embryo's of Cycadeae &c, he declared that it was not in the Prodr[omus]. but could not find his copy for me to show it him, & it was well he did not, for I afterwards forgot

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Hotel des Londres, Paris
Thursday night*1a
My dear Father [Sir William Jackson Hooker]
I am very glad to receive your letter t*1b now which I have anxiously wanted before starting [for] Belgium & Holland which I take on my way home[.] I have seen such fine things lately from Blume*2 & [es]pecially from Siebold*3 that my regret is not so great at ing sight of Germany as it was a week ago. Since writing st I have been at the Jardin almost every day, whose [mss damaged,1 word illeg.] collections rather appear to increase than diminish in magnitude, they are so vast, in extent, though it must be confessed that the waste of space & proportion of paper are enormous[.] The Botanists here have not ared being kind to me & I sent on 3 weeks of being lionized ever at all exploited. I am quite aware that this is owing my bearing your name, but so far out of sight as you [are], it was very unexpected. Were it not that the style of [mss damaged, 1 word illeg.] (or rather killing oneself) here is very prejudicial, I should wish you to come here one spring, but I am sure you would be made ill, as I have been & only recovered by dint sticking to Seine water & letting via ordinaire alone, this as a fortnight ago & my poisoner was M[onsieur] Gay*4, who eternally complained of the badness of his dinner & made Webb*5 & I [mss damaged, 1 word illeg.] & especially drink more than we liked by dint of a similar pressing to what you underwent in Ireland. The poor man evidentially thought us great guests, & that we were too proud for his table perhaps. Every one here talks of you as of an old friend & I am sure that as far as plants are concerned [mss damaged, 1 word illeg.] of mine will prove a most profitable visit for the

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Museum have much to give & only want a little stimulus in receiving: I have looked over the Abyssinian things, & they are excellent & somewhat differing from Schimpers, also the Senegal things of Perotelet[?] & Goudot[']s*6 Madagascar, amongst all them there are good duplicates for distribution, amongst the ferns of these countries I saw nothing very remarkable[,] their best are Blumes' Java ones are Siebold's Japan Coniferae are superexcellent[sic]. -- They want Scotish[sic] plants very badly & have none of the Fl[ora] Bor[eali] Am[ericana] things -- of V[an] D[emen's] L[and] plants they are getting good things from the Cape Verreaux who is now there. I have also seen many Botanists -- spent a day with Gaudichaud*7 who is remarkably kind & when he meets me asks me to dine with him without ceremony & that sort of thing. He gave me a long letter about his sap & cambium case, his materials &c are beautiful but he may not have made the best use of them. He has published on the Pandameae in the Bay of the Bonite & cut the order up into several made genera & species in the most extraordinary manner & altogether incurred great censure here; he has I cannot tell how many species of Phytelephas characterized by the form of the nut the only part of the genus he has seen. Mirbel*8a is very old & failing, he is surprised you have not thanked him for his essay on the Date Palm, which is a beautifully illustrated but rather illegible paper: he is preparing his grand work on the Anatomy of the Monocotyledonous stem & showed me the drawings & for it which are very beautiful but folio & dreadfully cumbersome. He also showed me many other physiological drawings beautifully done & desired Brown's*8 discovery of the plurality of Embryo's of Cycadeae &c, he declared that it was not in the Prodr[omus]. but could not find his copy for me to show it him, & it was well he did not, for I afterwards forgot

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under what order Brown had noticed it so particularly, besides under Cycadeae, & at last found it under Scitamineae, & told him of it, he said Brown had "inaccuarie[?] humem[?]" against him, which I assured him was not the case & that he ought not to say so, as I had often heard Mr Brown talk of him, but never with any ill feeling whatever: the poor man is old & touchy I suppose. Chili Gay is very polite but will give nothing until he has published, he wants to go to England to study your herbarium, I advised him to take you a set to name there. I had a long talk with [1 word crossed through, illeg.] M[onsieur] Barnaoud*9 [Barnéoud], who has just written on Plantago & who is though a Botanist of 2 years standing to describe make a flora of Chili!! I do not think him at all competent & his recent essay on Plantago is a very poor affair indeed. Jurim[?] is a very nice fellow indeed, he has given me a live plant of the Stapelia one of only two little ones he possesses, he also sent me 2 most magnificent specimens of that beautiful Hepatica the Descicea[?], these things (& the essay on the same) were quite unasked for & came with a most handsome letter: but indeed there are 20 persons here who have thus rendered me hommage, Montague*10 has given me the Botany Cryptogams of Cuba, a very beautiful work & a great catch, as Richard*11 will send you the Phenog[?]. but I must beg him the Icones filic[um] of which he has from you the first few numbers, Decaisne*12 has given me his essay on Arabian plants, a most beautifully illustrated paper & all the hitherto published plates of the Freg[ate] of the Venus. The more I see the more I am surprized with the learning & sagacity of Decaisne, he is a most superior man, his knowledge of species is equally great, he would be the man to go over your Lubiae[?] to some purpose, & he draws most beautifully. I hope that he will be able to come to England this year. On my return I must make up something for Comte Jaubert*13, he has been so exceedingly kind & so has his Lady[,] he has given up two whole days to taking me sight seeing &

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a first rate guide he makes, for he knows everything [of] Botany, he is said to be a great & able Politician, & looks it, is further a perfect encyclopaedia of History, [1 word illeg.] letters, music, poetry, painting, in short nothing comes amiss to him but as I said before Botany & that he certainly makes a very poor hand of though very fond of it indeed. His conduct to me anything but bears out his character of meanness. I believe he does not purchase because unnamed things are useless to him. From here I go to Brussels, Ghent, Antwerp, Rotland[?] or Lyden[sic] Haarlem & the Haag from whence I shall start for England, I must arrange for the Haag steamer & Haarlem organ. Please write to Lyden to the care of Bl[ume] perhaps you would be as good as [to] write [to] Blume to say that I unexpectedly go to Holland[,] thank him if at all you have received anything from him, perhaps you can spare him a copy of the Gen[era] Fil[icum], I think there are 4 remaining. Siebold [&] he are on dreadful terms, I must manage between them, Decaisne knows them all & give me letters & who tells me every thing I need attend to on the route[.] Richard has given me letters to Brussels, I shall not stop any where above a few hours except at Lyden. Hambron*14 is in very bad [1 word illeg.] I want to see him but Decaisne & Jussieu*15 say he is boiling with rage at us & that I must not go or there will be a row. I find the[?] that critique was well received here by those whose opinion [be] best worth having. At the Jardin he is detested & the critiques considered quite fair as his work is a disgrace to France, indeed I think it is well to scold bad books as that gives a character to the Journal & the latter is very well thought of here, especially the review part.
I wish Gay would give some of his European plants, but he [makes] a point of giving nothing away, he sends a letter for you & Planchon kind regards to the latter. I send his & Brown's book to Berlin by Humboldt*16. Many thanks &c &c to Brown for all his goodness. If you are looking out things for Leman, you had better put a set aside for Paris of certain but perhaps you will wait till I return. We are busy trying to get an agent here for Leman, a bookseller all agree[?] is best. It should be some one who will take charge of all books & parcels*17
*1[illeg. mss damaged] a regular monthly magazine. If Leman would undertake some part of a book department & 4 or 5 others would agree to take the Annales through him it would be [muc]h more easy & profitable too, as ensuring a monthly parcel. Love to all. Ever your most affectionate son | Jos D Hooker[signature]

ENDNOTES


1. The text which forms the end and valediction of the letter, appears at the top of page 1, next to the address, it has been transcribed at the end of the letter text in this document, as it should be read.
1a. The date '20 Feb' has been added in pencil in a hand not that of the original author of the letter, Sir Joseph Dalton Hooker.
1b. The left hand edge of page 1 of the manuscript has been damaged meaning small sections of the text are missing or partially illegible. Angle brackets have been used in this transcript to indicate where damaged text has been surmised, to the best of the transcriber's ability, from the context of the extant text.
2. Charles Ludwig de Blume or Karl Ludwig von Blume (1796--1862). German-Dutch botanist. He was born at Braunschweig in Germany, but studied at Leiden University and spent his professional life working in the Dutch East Indies and in the Netherlands, where he was Director of the Rijksherbarium (state herbarium) at Leiden.
3. Philipp Franz Balthasar von Siebold (1796--1866). German physician, botanist, and traveller. He achieved prominence by his studies of Japanese flora and fauna and the introduction of Western medicine in Japan.
4. Claude Gay (1800--1873). French botanist, naturalist and illustrator who carried out some of the first investigations of Chilean natural history. He also travelled in Russia, Tartary and Peru and carried out a study of mining in the United States of America.
5. Philip Barker-Webb FRS (1793--1854) English botanist. He collected plants in Italy, Spain, and Portugal, and was the first person to collect in the Tetuan Mountains of Morocco.
6. Justin Goudot (? -- c.1850). French explorer and naturalist collector.
7. Charles Gaudichaud-Beaupré (1789--1854). French botanist. 8a. Charles-François Brisseau de Mirbel (1776--1854). French botanist and politician. He was a founder of the science of plant cytology.
8. Robert Brown (1773--1858). Scottish botanist and palaeobotanist who made important contributions to botany largely through his pioneering use of the microscope. His contributions include one of the earliest detailed descriptions of the cell nucleus and cytoplasmic streaming; the observation of Brownian motion; early work on plant pollination and fertilisation, including being the first to recognise the fundamental difference between gymnosperms and angiosperms; and some of the earliest studies in palynology. He also made numerous contributions to plant taxonomy, including the creation of a number of plant families that are still accepted today; and numerous Australian plant genera and species, the fruit of his exploration of that continent with Matthew Flinders.
9. Francois Marius Barneoud (1821 -- ?).
10. Jean Pierre François Camille Montagne (1784--1866). French military physician and botanist who specialized in the fields of bryology and mycology.
11. Achille Richard (1794--1852). French botanist and physician. Studied and described several genera of orchids.
12. Joseph Decaisne (1807--1882). French botanist and agronomist.
13. Comte Hippolyte François Jaubert (1798--1874). French politician and botanist
14. Jacques Bernard Hombron (1798--1852). French naval surgeon and naturalist.
15. Adrien-Henri de Jussieu (1797-- 1853). French botanist.
16. Baron Alexander von Humboldt (1769--1859). Explorer and naturalist who did most of his work in Central and South America. Between 1830--1848 he was often employed on diplomatic missions to Paris.
17. The end of the letter and the valediction are to be found at the top of page one of the letter, see endnote 1 above for the full text.

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