Hooker, Sir Joseph Dalton
JHC165
The Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew, Richmond, Surrey, United Kingdom
JDH/2/22/1/1 f.52-53
Gray, Asa
The Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew
8-9-1875
© Descendants of Sir Joseph Dalton Hooker
Asa Gray Correspondence
The Trustees of the Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew
English
Original MS
5 page letter over 2 folios
 

JDH informs Asa Gray that he has just visited his friend from Nepal, Brian Houghton Hodgson & also his sister in law Mrs Barnard. William Turner Thiselton-Dyer has been organising books & manuscripts at RBG Kew. JDH thanks Gray for his criticisms on GENERA PLANTARUM, specifically mentioning his own & [George] Bentham's work on Vaccinieae & Orabancheae incl Hypopithys, various Andromeda species, oxycoccos & whether Gaylussacia is a natural genus. Asks for Gray to clarify his stance on whether Orobanche should be made a separate order or part of Ericaceae. JDH has been assured by Bureau & Decaisne that there is no Pleuricospora in Borgeau's Mexican collection. Agrees that Gray, not Lindley, should have been acknowledged under Diapensiaceae, though it is a weak order that JDH considered putting into Ericaceae. JDH does not agree with Gray's desire to be acknowledged under Galax. JDH, Thiselton-Dyer, Oliver & Baker were all unaware of Gray's conspectus of Mertensia & JDH complains that he cannot be expected to keep up with all of Gray's extensive work. Thanks Gray for seeds of Arctostaphylos bicolor. Hopes Jackson & plant case have arrived. Harriet [Hooker later Thiselton-Dyer, Hooker's daughter] & co will return from Boulogne the following week. Harriet is generally a good housekeeper but as she is pretty she is asked out a lot & is 'too lazy to take the lead as head of the house' JDH is kept very busy with family matters & is glad to have the help of Mrs Turner & a cousin who will recommence their stay with the Hooker's once returned from Boulogne.

Transcript


Kew
Sept[ember] 8/[18]75
Dear [Asa] Gray
I have just returned from a little visit to my India friend Hodgson (of Nepal) in Gloucestershire[?] -- he is hale & well at 75 -- -- but he is absolutely idle. I also spent a day at Cheltenham with my sister in law Mrs Barnard; & on my return find that [William Turner Thistleton] Dyer has done a splendid lot[?] of work & got books& official mss. into splendid order.
Thanks for your criticisms on Gen[era] Plant[arum]. I am thankful they are no worse.
I assure you that the keeping up Vaccinieae & Orabancheae was quite as much Bentham[‘]s as my doing.

Page 1


Kew
Sept[ember] 8/[18]75
Dear [Asa] Gray
I have just returned from a little visit to my India friend Hodgson (of Nepal) in Gloucestershire[?] -- he is hale & well at 75 -- -- but he is absolutely idle. I also spent a day at Cheltenham with my sister in law Mrs Barnard; & on my return find that [William Turner Thistleton] Dyer has done a splendid lot[?] of work & got books& official mss. into splendid order.
Thanks for your criticisms on Gen[era] Plant[arum]. I am thankful they are no worse.
I assure you that the keeping up Vaccinieae & Orabancheae was quite as much Bentham[‘]s as my doing.

Page 2

we both gave weeks of careful consideration to the subject. He not I, is responsible for Hypopithys Linn. versus Dillen[?]. I had the latter, but he would have the former -- we agreed that the genus must stand.
Newberrya "alegenccheri"[sic?] is no doubt a transposition from Gray Torrey to Gray.
If you had to review all the Andromeda you would I think have done as I have.
I must look to Andromeda frondosa
Bryanthus & Phyllodoce -- we may argue about for ever. Ditto Oxycoccos. Ditto Gaylussacia being a natural genus.
In your notes to Bentham you "do not object to its orobancheae being

Page 3

made a separate order" -- In your notes to me you say "They seem to me manifest Ericaceae"! Which view am I to take, oh Clarissimae et oculatissimae
Pleuricospora in Bourgeau[']s Mexican collection -- I wrote about this & have Bureau & Decaisne's positive assurance that there is nothing of the kind there, & they sent me specimens of all Bourgeau[']s Monotropeae.
I deplore with you the omission postponment of your name for Lindley's under Diapensiaceae -- we considered it but hardly thought that it was required for so small an order constructed at various times -- to enter into a yarn about it -- we do not profess to

Page 4

enter into the history of the orders -- nor do I see the reasonableness of the complaint that you were not quoted under Galax. In fact we did not think much of Diapensiaceae as an order at all & were minded to put it again into Ericaceae.
As to overlooking your conspectus of Mertensia you will be sorry to hear that neither Oliver, nor Dyer, nor Baker knew of it -- i.e remembered it, and that not all of our 3 brains all put together can carry the "disjecta membra" of Gray on Botany -- on you go -- you care nought for the convenience of Botanists, scattering, scattering, scattering -- this will make you very angry, but our tempers were up long ago! And we rather chuckle when, having done our utter[?] best, we find you left out in the cold in matters which you "certainly could expect us to know".

Page 5

Thanks for yours of Aug[ust] 17th & seeds of Artcostaph.[Arctostaphylos] bicolor.
I hope Jackson has arrived with the plant case in good order.
Harriet*1 & co. are still at Boulogne but return next week. I am much exercised with family matters of all kinds & sometimes at my wits end. Harriet makes a good careful Housekeeper in most ways -- but is far too lazy to take the lead as head of the house & being pretty is much asked out. I am most fortunate in having Mrs Turner & my cousin with me, they will stay now till Dr Turner comes home -- they are at Boulogne however now with Harriet.
Ever aff[ectionatel]y y[our]s | Jos D Hooker [signature]

ENDNOTES


1. Harriet Anne Thiselton--Dyer née Hooker (1854--1945). Botanical illustrator. Oldest daughter of Joseph Hooker and his first wife Frances. Married William Turner Thiselton--Dyer in 1877. Her husband was Assistant Director of RBG Kew (1875--1885) and later Director (1885--1905), succeeding her father.

Please note that work on this transcript is ongoing. Users are advised to study electronic image(s) of this document where possible.

Powered by Aetopia