Hooker, Sir Joseph Dalton
JHC111
Churra [Cherrapunji?], India
JDH/1/10 f.296-298
Hooker, Sir William Jackson
The Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew
8-8-1850
© Descendants of Sir Joseph Dalton Hooker
Indian Letters 1847-1851
The Trustees of the Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew
English
Original MS
10 page letter over 3 folios
 
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have sanctioned Campbells outlay of £100 in Sikkim, which as it was, he referred to the court at home, & pending their answer I am still liable for the whole amount, & have had to put my name to a document of Govts. to that effect ! Lord D[alhousie] would much rather give me 100 out of his pocket than ask the Court for it for me; he sanctioned C[ampbel]s doing so in that form, which is quite another matter. The Court too will do well if they put Thomson on a decent footing, my stepping in there might do him harm & neither of us good. What I shall ask from Lord D[alhousie] is a letter for or to Ld Jn or the Chancellor or Ld Seymour & I hope he will give it -- though, holding science as "all humbug" as in his heart I know he does, my hopes are more directed to his writing for me than for science of for the public good. I am not proud however it is the gold I want & then I shall set to work with heart & soul.
Ten thousand thanks for your exertions in re "Tom's time", our destinies are so interwoven that whatever affects his prospects with the

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Churra [Cherrapunji]
Aug 8/ [18]50 *1
My dear father
We have returned to this place after a very fine trip to Nunklow on the borders of Assam, by which we have added many hundreds new & fine plants to our collections. Your's of June 5th reached me the other day & today those of 16 & 23 came together ! Very many thanks for them all so full of news & interest to both Tom & myself -- & now to answer them all.
I am very glad you had an interview with Jung Bahadur, & not sorry that he was unfavourable (fide Kavanagh) to my Nepal trip, as that offers the best excuse for giving up what no one in India could understand my relinquishing being on slender ground. How the man can have the impudence to be unfavourable is a monstrous thing & Lord D[alhousie] will be savage enough in his heart I know, as I believe he set his mind on my going to the Nepal snows.

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I however now care nought for his J.B.s motives or wishes & the sooner such matters are definitely banished one's mind the better. What glorious times the little man seems to have had & you too seem to bloom with him in a remarkably refreshing manner. Lord Hardinge is a you describe him a perfect gentleman & a most kind hearted one -- have you seen his son Chas. H[ardinge].? a very superior person & young Arthur, the little Adonis -- a very opposite & dissipated rogue.
So both Ld. Jn [John Russell] & Ld Seymour shake their heads at paying my passage home. This is too atrociously shabby for comment but I care little about it in comparison with what is to be done on my return & that is a puzzle. In the first place (you perhaps will not believe it) you cannot house my collection during arrangement, & if Thomsons & other Indian ones are to be done with them still less can you. I have collected now upwards of 7000 species including Crypt[ogam]s & I hope to have 9 or 10 000 before I go home. The bulk I sent to Calcutta [Kolkata] last

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March March is far greater than what went home by the "Queen"[.] I have already here, around me, nearly the bulk of both together. All splendid specimens packed to suffocation in vast sheets, & so packed that all must individually come out -- there is no lifting sheet & specimen together to arrange. Paper has cost me nearly £100 since I arrived in India & I have just sent to Jenkins for £10 worth more[,] also to Sylhet & Calcutta. I am quite determined that my collection shall be the most important ever formed in the same share of time by one individual, taking all things into consideration, good preservation, interest, variety, & illustration by pen pencil &c. &c. not to mention number of specimens. I can do nothing with these except I have both leisure space & a sufficiency to live upon. The W.&.F. [Woods & Forests Department] had much better give me Aiton's house, as it is, for the purpose, which of itself would form a good ground for petitioning the Gov[ernmen]t to give me support whilst publishing. I must recommence Fl. Ant. [Flora Antarctica] the moment I get back to England, whether the Admiralty will give me £140 again per annum or

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or no, I must undertake the Geol[ogical]. Survey if nothing else is done for me, & these are works of such a nature, that nothing would induct induce me to entertain the notion of working up my Indian results at the same time, as an unpaid amateur. Except the Govt. aid me, the results of my expedition, (except for the plants grown at Kew) are pretty well thrown into the sea. I do not say this in any ill--skin or growling mood -- but would wish you well to see[?] over the matter, & to remember, that I shall have numerically more species than all the combined Indian collections distributed by Wallich -- perhaps as many, & certainly much better specimens. My collection has cost our Govt. fewer hundreds of pounds than W[allich]s. did his thousands, & every specimen has been collected & dried under my own eyes, most with my own hand, whilst of salary I have not enjoyed one shilling & my expenses to Govt. is little over £1100. --
I cannot feel too grateful for your unwearying exertion for me, & I feel far more for your repeated disappointment than for my own. All I can do to merit

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the attention of Govt. I have tried to do & I will go on till my return, straining every nerve, even though they definitely refuse every thing presently & prospectively -- once home to England & I work for money, & only for Govt. if Govt. will feed me & house me.
I am so glad you are drawing up a list of my collections &c for Govt. as when my 1849 collections go home the matter will be--come too grave for even a Govt. to shut their eyes. Thuillier sends both my original map of Sikkim & a copy home by this mail for you, & that is a thing that can be looked at, as can drawings, & you may depend upon my leaving no stone unturned to merit the great energy warmth & devotion with which you wrestle on.
I have well pondered all you say about applying to Lord D[alhousie]. & will tell you all I know, he will never approach the Company on my behalf. The Court looked on my going out, & his taking me out, as a job, they expected he was going to press me into the Service as poor Lord Auckland did a Naval Ass[istan]t Surgeon amongst the persons, who had no claims on the company. I did not expect at all, that he would

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have sanctioned Campbells outlay of £100 in Sikkim, which as it was, he referred to the court at home, & pending their answer I am still liable for the whole amount, & have had to put my name to a document of Govts. to that effect ! Lord D[alhousie] would much rather give me 100 out of his pocket than ask the Court for it for me; he sanctioned C[ampbel]s doing so in that form, which is quite another matter. The Court too will do well if they put Thomson on a decent footing, my stepping in there might do him harm & neither of us good. What I shall ask from Lord D[alhousie] is a letter for or to Ld Jn or the Chancellor or Ld Seymour & I hope he will give it -- though, holding science as "all humbug" as in his heart I know he does, my hopes are more directed to his writing for me than for science of for the public good. I am not proud however it is the gold I want & then I shall set to work with heart & soul.
Ten thousand thanks for your exertions in re "Tom's time", our destinies are so interwoven that whatever affects his prospects with the

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India House bears on mine, their employing him at home would [small hole in letter] be a spur to our Govt. to do justice to my works as a Serv[an]t of theirs in India & a combination of both would work well for all parties. Tom is well, hearty & indefatigable under all disappointments he is a rare botanist & worker & a most amiable well principled & good man, certainly the most valuable friend I ever formed. He thinks of nothing but my good, works with & for me, encourages & hopes for the best in the long run, liberal in all his sentiments cheerful & active -- you will find him a very Planchon at naming plants too.
I am disgusted with Decaisne & if your plants[?] are not returned forthwith must write him a letter cutting his acquaintance summarily.
You quite mistake me about Brown & the Athenaeum. I never supposed B[rown]. had any pique against me, or still less had done me mischief, what I said was that he promised to bring me on in the council election of 1848, when to do so would have been a complement worth paying for, he did not -- but brought Falconer on instead: whilst the length of time my name has been on the books, bring it now so near that of election by ordinary

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routine, that the time for doing so as an honour or a compliment is gone by [small hole in letter] would not have grudged the £36,[] for the distinction of coming on early would have been very great, little as I feel I could or should afford it -- how I feel hurt at Brown's neglect, & do not see how under my present discouraging prospects I shall be able to afford £36 & £6 a year, on my return, for half a dozen dinners, to none of which I can take Tom, who will I hope be my constant companion in London, & who, even if inclined would never become a member under 5 or 6 years -- voila tout. As to Jock Smith I am most heartily glad you can give so flourishing an ac[coun]t. of his & my things, but to tell truth, I asked so often about other seeds besides Rhod[odendron]s & what Jock was doing with them that I began to fear the worst. I was very anxious about the Larch & Rhubarb which your last tells me of, to my delight -- which Codonopsis, Bucklandia, Rubi[aceae], Lardizabs. Primulas, Canapthus[?], Mecanopsis, Lonicerae[,] Balsams &c, are perhaps likely to prove more generally useful than the Rhododendron in flower gardens. I am now hard at work colleting fern & other seeds here & sending you stores to Falconer's care.
About my funds I am grieved to say that I made very different calculation.

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from your memo to meet my expenses of £1100. In the first place you gave me £500 not 400) for the first year, & I certainly thought (but perhaps misunderstood something you said) about £400 being always rated as £500, you my dear father making up the difference. I am very sorry if I was wrong in taking up what I thought you said. Hence the your statement of 800 for 1848 & 9 I regarded as £1000 & it certainly was bona fide £900. Again still less did I contemplate a reduction of my salary for 1850 to £300 believing fully that the W.& F. [Woods & Forests Department] would eventually not only make that up in one way or another & but pay my passage home. Again, if, as I urged, you had always sent me out the money instead of leaving me to draw bills on England I should have been greatly a gainer instead of the looser as I am to the tune of I forget what percent. My Calcutta trip which I calculated would have done Tom at least some good cost me well on to £100 & left him no richer than before. To conclude I have here the means of making extraordinary collections for at an expenditure, whereas in Sikkim more money would not have got many more plants, & as I would rather be in debt to you than any other person I fear I must draw on & hope you will pay my passage home for jug money[?] too. Your having £300 a year more than when I left home has put me very much at [hole in paper] & I do not intend to make myself uncomfortable if you will let [hole in paper] your debter for £3 £400 more; or to let money in any way fash [hole in paper] till I am finally put off the coach by the W. & F. in May 1851. [hole in paper] I strike work, -- till then I shall work on for them with [hole in paper] , though I do not expect 6d beyond what the £300 from them up to [hole in paper] time. Meanwhile the C[hancellor]. of the E[xchequer]. may put his head in his own bag & I hope the W. & F. will draw the string very tight round his neck. As to resources from India I have never had a shilling but what I have told you of, though if inclined[?] to take service I daresay I would feather my nest.
You mistake me about Cathcart's artists again there are 5, at salaries varying from £2 to £4 £4.10 a month, the whole 5 do not turn out a drawing a day, no art[?] half colored, as many are. Travelling as I do there would never be a stroke done by Indian artists. I calculated the time & expense of Roxburgh's drawings, the other day, you would hardly believe the amount of one & the other -- Wight is the only man who has had good service (considering time & expense) out of Indian artists. The Garden artists plague Falconer out of his life & would not go to Tenasserim with him. I am sorry Bentham cannot name the plant -- I have loads of fine specimens but all ♂ I never saw but one tree any where. Do your pleasure with the Rhododendron pts I quite forgot all about them. We have only 4 Rhod[odendron]s here (perhaps 3) one is from 2000[?] ft. Booth went to Dupplah[?] county East of Bhotan [Bhutan] & got a splendid one I think R. Dalhousiae from a scrap Jenkins sent me -- he returns there this cold weather

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it is a horrid country, deadly unhealthy, savage, impracticable. Jenkins most candidly & kindly put me off Upper Assam altogether. I would quite as soon any friend of mine went to W. Africa. He Booth will try to penetrate to the snow! I wish him all success but have more fears than doubts. He will get wondrous plants. I took angles of the snowy peaks there & to the west[war]d (nearly as far as Sikkim) from these Mts the other day -- at distances of 160 to 200 miles !!! N.E., N., & N.W. there are 3 splendid snowy Mts where he is going, probably not under 25,000 ft. None of these Mts are above 6500 or 7000 ft. Snow never falls but hoar--frost forms in winter months. Griffiths book is wretched & very inaccurate -- I have only[?] read his letters &c carefully lately & find horrid slaps at Brown ! Found Benthamia at last to my great joy. We have 25 Balsams already. Lobb arrived today ! to the great amusement of all the people *2
here for when here before he snubbed the hills & their plants, being naturally jealous of other parties sending the fine things home, he is a remarkably steady honest industrious hard working & intelligent man but ridiculously conceited & opinionative when you come to converse with him. We expect great fun[?] with him. We had accommodation for him here, but he met Col[onel]. Lister on his way up who sent him to his house. Simon's[?] (Jenkin's man) we put on his mettle & he found Cardiopteris at last ! he (S[imons].) will be of immense service to us all. When my map of Sikkim goes home pray send it or copy to Mr Melvile or Auber Leach & offer to lend it if of any service. It might do me good if the Chairman India House saw it, & L[or]d Seymour. It would be no use my promising to send live birds to L[or]d Derby I could not take the charge or trouble at any remuneration -- his ungentleman like neglect of me at Knowlsley[sic] should not be an obstacle I assure you if I could -- I cannot go above 26 or 30 miles East of this safely -- the Jynta Rajah *3
rather a savage -- The country too, like what Griffiths traversed further East, & Jenkins says of Munnipore is too much Bamboo & heavy lumber for good botany. It is difficult for you to understand this. You shall have Plectocomia of course & all other palms of this region. No ripe seeds for 2 months to come of any. Does Bentham know an Acanth. with a solitary ascending ovule? I have a lot of such funny things as will make Brown jump as if pins was in his chair. ((Is the last number of Fl. Jav. out he shan't see Cardiopteris till it is. Best love & thanks to mamma for her letter. Your most aff[ectionate] son Jos D Hooker [signature]
P.S. I have the vol of Griffiths -- you may perhaps forget I took it with your leave, Planchon assuring us you had all the papers elsewhere. I have had the palms completed.

ENDNOTES


1. An annotation written in another hand records that the letter was "recd. Oct 19th."
2. The address of the recipient appears here as the letter would originally have been folded in such a way that it formed its own 'envelope'. The address reads "via Marseilles | Sir W. J. Hooker | Royal Gardens | Kew | near London".
3. Text continues vertically along side of page.
4. This postscript is emphasised with two lines to one side.

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